After successful spells in his native Chile and in Argentina,
54-year-old Manuel Pellegrini has been head coach of Spanish club
Villarreal since 2004.
In this interview, he talks about his 'project' at
the Yellow Submarine, his footballing principles and discusses the
prospect of one day taking charge of the Chilean national team.
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FIFA magazine: In 2004 you joined Villarreal and embarked on
an ambitious project but one which you have always approached
calmly. Almost four seasons later, there is no doubt that your time
in charge has been one long success story. How would you assess
your time at the club?
Manuel Pellegrini: When you join a club, you come
with a lot of expectations and the desire to transmit your
footballing beliefs. I knew that this was a solid and coherent
project and I have given it all I've got.
Like life itself, this project has had its highs and lows,
but you have always come out of it in the best possible manner. Did
you ever consider leaving Villarreal when you were going through a
period of bad results?
First of all, if you analyse the past four years, I
don't know if there have been any lows. In the first season we
qualified for the Champions League after finishing third in the
league and reached the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup. The
following season we reached the semi-finals of the Champions
League, came seventh in the league and played in the Inter-toto
Cup, although we did not qualify for the UEFA Cup.
Last season was difficult in some respects because we did not
live up to the expectations we had created for ourselves and
because of certain external factors. It was difficult, but we
finished fifth. There is currently a lot of dissatisfaction even
though we've spent the whole of the season in the Champions
League places. What low points? I don't think we have ever been
through periods where we thought that things weren't working
out. There have been no internal problems either. It may be that
externally we have fallen short of our objective, but I am very
satisfied with the work we have done and with the attitude of the
group.
That raises two issues. First of all, is your greatest
achievement to have instilled team spirit? And secondly, do you
believe that you have particularly improved the team from a
psychological standpoint?
My greatest achievement has been to obtain
commitment from the players. Here everyone plays the same except
Barcelona; we had to ensure commitment to the system because that
is always very important to a coach. From a psychological
standpoint, I think that the team has good moments and bad ones
depending on the results. There was a crisis here last year and the
squad were not happy. There are 25 different people and they all
think in a different way. The most important thing is that they are
all committed to reaching a particular target.
Which target?
Those who are only interested in results say that
winning is the only way to play well. I want my players to play
well to win.
Do you not think that being solid in defence and quick on
the counter-attack is also good football?
To play well is to win. I've always said that.
But you have to consider the manner in which you won. A pragmatic
coach is someone who praises the team for time-wasting and drawing
fouls and is not interested in the cohesion of the team. I respect
that idea. But do I want to play like that? When I am asked about
that footballing philosophy, I neither understand it nor do I
accept it.
My best example of playing well is against Barcelona and I'm
not just using it because we won the last match against that great
team [3-1 away]. We never asked for the stretcher, we didn't
waste time when taking free kicks or throw-ins, the team wanted to
keep playing to the point of being irresponsible if you want to put
it like that. Logically, if you have a good defence you usually
play well. I can understand why people praise that approach. Some
people come and play like that at the Madrigal and they deserve
some credit because winning is the only way to play well.
Which would you prefer, to win the league or to come second
playing magnificent football?
Aesthetically speaking it is more important to win
the league, but there is less chance of winning the league if you
don't play well.
This Villarreal side, your Villarreal, stands out because
of its 4-4-2 system, but you constantly adapt this formula as you
go in search of victory. Do you believe in tactical systems?
They are useful, but not to win. They can be used
to bring a certain mechanical quality to the play, but to win you
clearly need the individual skills of the players you have inserted
into the system. I personally think that tactics are intelligence
applied to the game. We have played against Barcelona several times
using a second striker like Robert Pires and we have won, but then
that same system and team that beat Barcelona were thrashed by
Zaragoza.
Effectiveness and performance is also decisive. My idea is that you can put defenders, midfielders or even a forwards on the wings, the important thing is to occupy the space. You have to sacrifice a striker, but it is better with two attacking midfielders because they create more fluidity in attack.
But it all varies, the name may vary, but not the system. You
make tactical changes at particular moments in a match in an
attempt to change the game. There's a cliche in journalism that
says that the ball suffers a lot. I don't understand that. The
ball can't play, if Barcelona have the ball you have to find
another way of beating them. The best way to do damage to an
opponent is to get in behind them through runs from deep from
Eguren or Pires with Guille Franco playing with his back to goal.
But it is the team performance that wins matches, never the system.
When you arrived here, you made one remark that has been
repeated ad nauseam: "I don't believe in projects of more
than three years". You have now been here for four years and
have extended your contract for another two.
That comment comes from a statistic that says that 98 per
cent of coaches do not last more than two years at a club. You have
to develop more short-term projects, although there are exceptions
such as Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger... But in this project I
have targets, maybe not specific ones, because we are trying to
close the gap on the big clubs in La Liga. There was no reason not
to carry on. However, not all seasons are identical. You have to
live for the day, I can't predict the future, which is defined
by the present.
You have suffered a lot of adversity in one season, as
happened last year with the crisis with Riquelme, the cruciate
ligament injuries suffered by Gonzalo, Pires and Nihat and your
poor position in the table. But despite everything, you decided to
carry on because the board continued to believe in you.
Without the board's support it would have been
difficult to carry on. Furthermore, the president was of the same
view and gave me a new contract last season. We shook hands and
continue to move forward. But I wouldn't like to go after a bad
run, but leave the club in a healthy state after everything we have
achieved in this time. People have got into the bad habit of seeing
the team high up the table fighting it out with the big clubs.
From what you say, I gather that you never considered
leaving the club.
The possibility of leaving is always there. There
are always offers but I have been coherent because I am happy at
this club and I still have things to offer it.
Imagine that the same thing happens to you as to Juande
Ramos, you receive a dizzying offer from another club halfway
through the season and have to decide whether to take it.
I was in that very situation this season and
decided to say no. That's not a criticism of Juande Ramos,
it's my point of view. If I don't feel committed, I say
goodbye and I go. Ramos made that decision and there's nothing
else to say. I have a commitment with this club and I intend to
honour it.
One of the most important features of your project over the
last few seasons has been the large number of Latin American
footballers who have played for you alongside the Europeans. Aside
from their quality, is their ability to adapt quickly a decisive
factor in their performance?
I would not make any distinction between Latin
American and European footballers. We have tried to bring a good
level of performance out of all the players in the squad. Then you
have the youth players. Others have not performed well but that is
not so much to do with nationality as with the requirements of the
technical staff and the work the player puts in.
Another distinguishing feature is Villarreal's youth
system. During your time at the club, players such as Cazorla,
Hector Font, Arzo, Marcos and Bruno, virtually one a season, have
come through.
I think it's very important to prioritise youth
development. Training players is very important for the club and
luck-ily for the coaching staff, players have emerged who
strengthen the club's work and commitment.
Your compatriot Matias Fernandez is a future prospect.
However, the fact he is 21, has a lot of quality and is promising
player but needs to be looked after or, to be more precise,
polished detracts from his image quite a lot.
Yes, polish is the word. He has many qualities, but
in Chile people thought that he would be a great success despite
his youth. He arrived here and encountered a different type of
football and a heavy playing schedule. I knew that he would need
time to get used to everything. He has realised that he needs to be
calm.
Could the pressure on the player have been an
obstacle?
Possibly. People criticise his performances and he is
surrounded by a great deal of expectation. It is up to the coaching
staff to assess his work. He is a work in progress, he has the
ability to be successful. But I don't think that the praise
affects his performance, you can tell it hasn't gone to his
head. He is very serious in that regard.
Speaking of Chile, do you intend to coach the Chilean
national team one day?
I would love to. If the opportunity arose, if both
parties were amenable I would like to finish my career coaching the
national team, but both parties would have to be willing. Right
now, my mind is on Villarreal.
There has been speculation that this may happen when your
contract with Villarreal expires.
It coincides with 2010 but I live in the present,
not the future. We'll see what happens.
