FIFA.com: What did each of the FIFA World Cups you played
in mean to you personally and professionally?
Romario: I stopped being an ordinary person. From
the moment I'd played at a World Cup, I became more aware of
things that, prior to the World Cups, hadn't concerned me, and
I therefore became Romario, the public figure. I was involved at
the World Cup in 1990, which, unfortunately, I have to add to my
CV. Not because it was a bad World Cup, on the contrary, it was a
great honour to have played at that World Cup. But for me
personally it wasn't so positive, as sadly I only got to play
45 minutes, against Ireland if I'm not mistaken (Editor's
note: Romario played for 65 minutes in Brazil's final group
game against Scotland). After all, I only managed to get a little
taste of the World Cup, so to speak. There's no doubt that 1994
was the greatest year of my life, professionally speaking, because
I hadn't yet been able to play a full World Cup campaign and I
was privileged enough to play in all seven games. Those games wrote
themselves into the history of Brazilian football forever, the
story of that squad is also my story. I'm very happy and
grateful for that.
I think that every footballer understands that if they wish
to reach their full potential, professionally speaking, they need
to appear at a World Cup. I was fortunate enough to play one full
World Cup and 45 minutes of another. I think that those 45 minutes
were a valuable experience. I got the very pleasant feeling of
having helped, even if only for a few days, to make our
long-suffering people happy. The Brazilian public takes football
very seriously, and at that moment, 24 years after our last title,
we needed a World Cup win, and that's what happened. When we
arrived back in Brazil, we saw a joy on Brazilians' faces that
had not been there before, especially for the younger generation,
who had never seen Brazil crowned champions. That's another
reason why I feel I've been a success in my professional life,
and your personal life automatically follows suit.
What's the difference between the FIFA World Cup and
the other competitions you had already played in?
The World Cup is a unique event, not only in football, but
also in the world of sport. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
believe it has the largest audience of any sports event in the
world. Football is the most-played and best-loved sport on the
planet, and when you get to a World Cup, you set yourself apart
from those who have never had and never will have the opportunity
to play there. It's a unique moment in a player's career,
the chance to be seen by millions and to have the honour and
pleasure of pulling on your country's shirt and fighting for
national pride, all the while knowing that if you win, you'll
be making millions of people happy, if only for a few moments. I
think these are the most important things about a World Cup.
What is your earliest childhood memory of the FIFA World
Cup?
The first World Cup I remember a bit about as a youngster was
the 1982 edition. I was born in 1966 and four years later Brazil
won the 1970 Cup. Unfortunately my only memories of that are from
clips I later saw on television. I was eight when the 1974
tournament came round and still only 12 in 1978. It was only in
1982 that I really begin to see the World Cup differently, because
that's when I began playing football for a club here in Brazil.
Olaria it was, they're in the second division now. Then I began
to appreciate the World Cup more, because that was when one of the
best teams in Brazilian history came together to compete for the
world title.
My 45-minute involvement at the 1990 World Cup made me
certain that a World Cup has a definitive impact on the life and
career of a footballer. The atmosphere is different, the
surroundings are different. There's a lot more anxiety than at
any other competition. People get much more nervous and everyone
has to be 100 percent responsible. I believe that at a World Cup
you have to put everything else to one side. If you're having
problems in your personal or professional life, you have to put
them to one side to be able to concentrate, to focus 10 percent on
the World Cup. Those are the differences between a World Cup and
other competitions.
In 1994, it was 24 years since Brazil had won the World
Cup. Do you think that team paved the way for later sides?
Of course. That generation made history after a 24-year wait.
It opened doors, and blazed a trail for a new generation to follow.
Some of the players on today's team were with us then, and they
directly or indirectly contributed a lot to that victory. So, I can
say with certainty that the current generation are grateful for our
1994 victory, just as future generations will be.
In the opening phase of the competition, you scored three
times in three games. Was that a target you had set for
yourself?
When I set off from Brazil to go and play at the World Cup, I
felt very confident that the squad had all the ingredients
necessary to be crowned world champions, because they had come
through some very tough times during qualifying. I joined the squad
a bit later, in the final game. That week I came to understand what
the squad had been through during that period. It was a squad of
players who were ready to write their names in world footballing
history, and especially in Brazilian footballing history. In my
opinion, when you win a World Cup you differentiate yourself from
those players who've merely played in a World Cup. That
generation of players had that aim in mind, aware of all the
obstacles that the squad would have to face during the World Cup.
Technically, we weren't a great team, but we were united.
The group was very strong. Coach Parreira was a guy who knew how to
communicate, who was very open to giving and receiving information.
A very good coaching team was put together and, thanks to the
support of many others, this generation of players got ahead.
I'm talking about the support of people behind the scenes, like
the cooks, the kit-men, the masseuses, the physiotherapists, the
doctors. A very select group was assembled, and everyone was made
aware of the effort required of them if we were to win. I'm
sure that every one of these 30 or 35 people are fully aware that
victory was achieved not because of eleven or even 22 players, but
because of everybody involved. Mentally we were up for it from
start to finish, and I thank God we achieved something historic for
ourselves, for Brazil and for football itself.
Which FIFA World Cup goals do you remember most and
why?
As I said before, I scored three goals in the first phase,
one in each game. A goal that was very important to me was the
first against Russia, because it was my first World Cup goal and
came in the very first game. That said, the most important goal,
because of when it was scored and the difficulty involved, was
against Holland when Bebeto reached the by-line, down the left-hand
side, and crossed the ball in. I struck the ball with the
"bate pronto", an expression that means hitting it with
the instep, which is a bit more difficult than side footing the
ball. It was an important goal because of how much it meant at that
moment, and because it was a goal that set us up for another
victory on our way to the Final, or at least the semi-final.
Many experts feel the Brazil - Netherlands clash was the
best game of USA 94. Would you agree?
I don't know if it was the best game, but it certainly
was our most difficult. Although we were winning 2-0, Holland
weren't intimidated and came back at us, pulling one back and
then missing two or three chances shortly afterwards. We were
reeling a little in the face of this Dutch onslaught, so to speak,
but we soon recovered and the game went back to normal. We won 2-1,
but it could have been a draw or Holland could have turned the game
around. (Ed's Note: The Netherlands equalised to make it 2-2
but Brazil went on to win 3-2). That wouldn't have been unfair
either, since both teams played good football, pushing forward and
always trying to score.
In my opinion, that was the most difficult game of the World
Cup. Others disagree and say our hardest game was against the
United States, because we played with ten men for a good part of
the game after Leonardo was sent off, and on a historic date for
the United States, the 4th of July. With all that pressure, some
players say that it was the most difficult game, but in my opinion,
it was the one against Holland.
The Netherlands game also provided Bebeto's
unforgettable goal celebration. How did that come about?
That was a unique moment for Bebeto. If I'm not
mistaken, his wife was pregnant or had just had the baby at that
time, and it was a quite an interesting celebration. He invented
that on the spur of the moment. He scored the goal and started
doing it. Mazinho, who was next to him, joined him and I, being
next to arrive, just had to follow suit. The three of us made that
gesture together, which left quite an impression on that World Cup.
At what point during that tournament did you become
convinced that Brazil would become world champions?
I know it's very easy to say this ten years
later, but I was always certain that Brazil would be champions
because, as I said before, I was in the form of my life, and I had
the perfect strike partner in Bebeto. Brazil's midfield was
made up of players who weren't very technical, but they did
their jobs extremely well and were very intelligent. We also had a
defence that didn't give away goals easily and, in my opinion,
one of the best goalkeepers of all time in Taffarel.
We also had an excellent set of substitutes, with players who
could have performed as well as or better than the starting eleven.
That's why I knew we'd win that title. The proof of this is
in all the pre-tournament interviews I gave in Brazil during which
I always said that it would be Brazil's World Cup and that, God
willing, it would also be my World Cup. And it all came to pass.
You got the only goal of the semi-final from a header. What
do you remember about that?
That was an unforgettable goal when you think about it. You
had me, at just 1.68 metres tall, rising to score with a header
between a clutch of Swedish players who were famous for their
average height of around 1.83 or 1.84 metres. That's pretty
unusual in football, even more so in World Cup and especially in a
semi-final. Jorginho had the good fortune to pick me out perfectly,
and with God's help I was able to get my head on the ball,
leaving the keeper unable to react in time.
That goal put Brazil into the Final. It was a very difficult
game, but with the team we had, it worked out all right. The games
we won were all close, hard-fought games. The first victory was 3-0
or 3-1 (Ed's Note: it was actually 2-0 against Russia) and the
other games were also very difficult. However, we got to the Final
aware that if we produced the kind of football that we'd been
playing until then, that is to say, knowing when to restrict the
opposition's ability to manoeuvre, then counter-attacking with
Bebeto and I, that we would prevail. And that's what happened.
You had a great partnership going with Bebeto. How did that
come about?
We'd been playing together since the Olympics in 1988 in
Seoul and had already lined up together in several other
competitions. So we understood each other very well. When Brazil
were working on tactics in training, Bebeto and I didn't have
to participate very much. We trained separately, because we already
knew each other so well. Bebeto was always an extremely intelligent
player. He greatly facilitated my attacking moves, which is why we
always had such a great understanding.
With regard to the Final against Italy, a repeat of 1970,
many people thought this would be a duel between you and Baggio.
Was that how you saw it, and was there anything said between the
two of you on the day?
We didn't have a chance to talk. We just
greeted each other, as everyone does before a game, especially in a
World Cup. Of course, if we had won the Final by at least a goal,
the win would have had a different flavour. Even though it finished
0-0 and we won on penalty kicks, it was an easier game than the
Holland one. I should have scored, so should Mazinho, and Italy had
a chance too. In fact, it was not a pretty game. In my opinion,
technically speaking, it wasn't worthy of a World Cup Final,
especially as we're talking about two schools of football, the
Brazilian and the Italian, which are the best in the world.
As I said, Brazil were ready to go all the way and did so on
penalties. That's why I'm here today talking about it. For
you to win, the other team has to lose. That's part of sport.
That day we were fortunate that three of them missed from the spot,
and so Brazil became world champions. It's an honour and source
of pride for me to be here speaking to you about it.
Parreira said that when he was choosing the players to take
the penalty kicks, you volunteered. How did that come about?
Up until that point I'd only taken one or maybe
two penalties in my life. There were five players in that team who
were always practising and who, in theory, would be the
penalty-takers. That said, at that moment in time I felt it was my
duty, since I'd already done many things for myself and the
national team. That was the moment when we players had more
responsibility than any other time in the tournament. It was time
to prove that I was now a mature player, who was there to face up
to challenges. So I volunteered myself, was fortunate enough that
Parreira agreed, and went on to score one of the goals that helped
Brazil win a title that meant so much.
What goes through a player's mind as he walks from the
centre circle to the penalty spot?
I think a lot depends on the moment, you know, what
competition it is, what game. On that occasion, I was more focused
than I've ever been in my life. I walked about 50 paces and,
while I was walking, various thoughts flashed through my mind: my
childhood, my parents, my friends, and the importance of winning
that title for the people of Brazil. As I took the ball and placed
it on the spot, all these thoughts were swirling around my head. It
was an enormous responsibility, having to kick the ball, a piece of
leather, and be responsible for making a nation happy or sad. Thank
God I, and the rest of the guys, were fortunate enough to make our
countrymen smile.
What was your first thought when Baggio missed their final
kick?
It was of having done my job and, more than anything, of
having kept my word, since I'd promised that Brazil would be
the champions. When I say "I", I mean to say that this
only came about because the squad all helped each other. Whatever I
may have done at that World Cup - and in my opinion, I put in the
best performance of my life in that tournament - I only achieved
what I did because of the strength of the squad. They helped me 100
percent. So, when I say "I", I'm referring to the
entire squad who did what they had to do and took a giant stride
towards being part of world football history.
How did it feel to be alongside Dunga when he raised the
Cup in the air?
That moment is beyond compare. It's a magical moment in
life that will stay with us forever. I don't know if it was
Dunga or Branco who said: "Stay here, when I get hold of the
Trophy, you can grab it as well." That's a moment that
people can't put into words. It's fantastic, it's
thrilling, the feeling's incomparable! Only those who hold that
Trophy, who lift it, who experience that moment, get to feel that.
Thanks to the grace of God, I had that pleasure.
What did the squad do once they took the Cup back to the
dressing room? We all did something. I must have taken
about 3,000 thousand photos with it, and kissed and hugged it
almost as often. That was the achievement of a generation, our
generation, which had been on the receiving end of so much
hardship, scorn and criticism. That was the result of everything we
went through to show the world that we were a generation of
winners.
It's a part of my life now.
How does it feel to hold it again now?
The first thing I have to say is that it's cold, and
heavy. Knowing that I once raised this in the air is an honour. It
was glorious.
If you saw the Trophy in a museum, how would you describe
it aesthetically?
Aesthetically, it represents football perfectly.
It's an object that should be kept somewhere where nobody can
touch it; only admire how perfect it is.
When you played in that Final, what did you think when you
saw the Trophy so close to the pitch?
To be honest, when the game began I didn't have a chance
to see it, as I was concentrating so hard. But near the end, I
glanced at it, and something told me that it was there just waiting
to be raised by Brazil. As I said before, we achieved something
historic in everybody's lives, especially our own.
Can you tell us about the reaction on the streets of Brazil
on your return?
What I saw were the streets of Brazil filled with ecstatic
people. To a downtrodden nation, that win was like a plate of food
for someone who is starving. I saw happiness etched on people's
faces, at least for those few moments, and that's something
that will stay with me for the rest of my life.
Romario: The achievement of a generation
(FIFA.com) Thursday 10 May 2007
