
FIFA.com: Let's begin with the FIFA World Cup. What
does the tournament evoke for you in general?
Paolo Rossi: For me the World Cup is the ultimate
objective for a professional player. It brought me fame, popularity
and success, starting with my first World Cup in 1978, which was
already a great success. I was 22. Italy didn't win the
tournament, but my performances came in for a lot of significant
praise. That's when my career really took off. Then, four years
later, we were lucky enough to win it. For me, the World Cup
represents the highest point for any professional. For a player,
winning the World Cup really is the ultimate goal.
You were also in the team in 1986.
Yes, I played at three World Cups. In 1986 I was in
the squad but never got off the bench. An odd thing for me was that
the three World Cups I took part in were all in Spanish-speaking
countries. The 1978 tournament was in Argentina, 1982 in Spain and
1986 in Mexico. That's quite curious.
Is the FIFA World Cup a great source of motivation?
Well, during the World Cup you need to stay focused
for 40 to 50 days. During this time a player must be at his peak,
both mentally and physically. Because it isn't just about him.
Football is a team sport so everyone has to pull together. Everyone
has to give their best. Which is why winning a World Cup is so
difficult: having one or two players off form can be enough to
spoil your chances. Everything is so intense. As a professional you
know you have to be at your peak. Every game is a mixture of great
excitement and great emotional stress, because every match will
make history. It's a fantastic and wonderful event.
Everybody has their own way of preparing. When you know the
FIFA World Cup is coming at the end of the season, are you
conscious of it.
Of course, every player starts to prepare himself
way before the kick off. It's such an important event that you
begin thinking about it a long time before it actually takes place.
Which is quite natural. Everyone knows the whole world will be
watching so you want to make a good impression. It's a
planetary event. I think the World Cup and the Olympics are the two
most important events in sport. I think the World Cup has a bigger
following though. It's the only sport that captivates the whole
world. The whole world stops for forty days while the tournament is
on.
Did football evolve over the three FIFA World Cups you
played in? Did you notice any improvements?
There was a definite improvement between my first
and second World Cups. Not just the game itself but in the overall
organisation. Things changed, they got better. When I look back at
my first World Cup in 1978, there have been changes. Football has
changed, the way it is broadcast has changed, the way it is
organized. I think football has improved a lot.
You scored three goals and set up two more in 1978.
Yes, in Argentina I did score three goals, the
first one against France. That was the opening match. I didn't
think I'd get to play at all. Bearzot included me in the team
at the last minute, probably because he thought I was on form. It
was fabulous to be able to play. Maybe we could have done slightly
better as a team. We could even have reached the Final, but we lost
out in a crazy semi-final against the Netherlands. The team we had
in 1978 was really great though.
You made a name for yourself in Argentina.
Yes. It was in Argentina that I really burst onto
the scene.
And you earned the nickname
Pablito.
Yes, the nickname was coined by the
Il Gazzettino journalist, Giorgio Rago, who has
unfortunately now passed away. It stuck throughout my career. Which
was fine by me because I like it. Even today people I meet in the
street call me Pablito.
Did you think when you won the silver shoe in 1978 that you
had reached your peak or did you feel your best was still to come?
I thought the best was still to come. When the
tournament ended I was satisfied but not entirely so. Every player
wants to win something important. We went home empty handed. In
1978 we planted the seeds and in 1982 we reaped the rewards. Four
years later we had a lot of 1978 veterans still in the side: Zoff,
Tardelli, Gentile, Scirea, Cabrini. We had new talent too:
Altobelli, Graziani and three or four others, but the backbone of
the team was still the same.
Let's talk about your goal against France, when the
ball came off the post. Was this a good example of your opportunism
and eye for goal?
Without a doubt. The 1978 game against France was a
good example of my ability to pounce on a half chance. My strong
point was always anticipating where the ball was going. Physically,
I couldn't compete with bulky defenders so I used my speed and
goal sense. This is something you either have or you don't.
It's not the sort of thing you can learn. You have to be
innately intuitive.
You fell on some tough times between the two FIFA World
Cups. Was it Enzo Bearzot's faith in you that made the
difference in 1982?
The fact that Bearzot trusted me was fundamental.
Without a coach like Bearzot, we probably wouldn't be having
this interview about our victory and how I became top scorer.
Bearzot believed in me and was sure I would come through at the
right time. When I started playing again after two years out it was
really, really tough. And Bearzot's trust was very important.
He was the coach, he picked the team. But the whole atmosphere was
very important, as well as the support of my team-mates.
Even after the first four matches, when you failed to
score?
Definitely. Even when I failed to score, I knew
they still had faith in me. This is fundamental for a player.
Because if you find yourself in an atmosphere where you feel that
your team-mates and the coaching staff have lost faith in your
abilities, it becomes difficult to perform. Instead, their attitude
towards me was instrumental in what happened later on.
Did the press get to you?
The press, well, not really... I always had a good
relationship with the papers. But I must say that I never really
thought about it. I always just got on with my job regardless of
what the papers said. I mean, when you play badly it's
perfectly normal to draw criticism from the media. It's part of
being a sportsman. I never worried about it. It's also true
that when you come in for unjust criticism it can stimulate you to
go out and do better. So harsh treatment in the press can sometimes
have a positive outcome.
And suddenly against Brazil you scored three times. What
had changed? Do you remember those goals?
In every player's career there are certain
moments you simply never forget. This was one of them. The first
goal was the most important one because it gave me back my
confidence in every sense of the word. From that moment on it was
as if someone up above was looking out for me.
The hand of God, Maradona might have said.
Yes, Maradona had the hand of God. In my case
someone up there was watching over me. Everything suddenly changed.
Nothing was going my way and then suddenly everything was going my
way. It was suddenly all so easy. Such is the beauty of sport. A
goal can change everything. It my case it changed my entire life.
How would you describe it? Was it a question of confidence?
Yes, it's a question of confidence. I was under
so much pressure because everybody had such high expectations of
me. Then when you don't deliver it's like you are in limbo.
A goal, when it comes, is like manna from heaven for a striker. It
gives you a whole new lease of life.
Even today, you still are the only player to have ever
scored three goals against Brazil.
Yes, I think I read that somewhere. But it's
not a statistic that interests me. What's important is we went
on to win the World Cup.
Did your team-mates treat you differently after the Brazil
game?
No. They just said: "Finally, a goal, about
time!" It was the last World Cup with that bunch of players. A
bunch of really great guys. We were great friends, very close to
one another. There was tremendous sense of solidarity too. That was
down to the coach. The atmosphere in the camp was great and it was
a very talented squad of players. Guys who had won a lot of
honours, five or six league titles and international titles too.
That was all important. I was so lucky to be part of it all.
What do you remember best, your goals or the final whistle?
No, what really stays with me is seeing all the
Italian flags in the stadium after the ref had blown the final
whistle. That's what I'll always remember. Of course I
remember the goals, all those great moments. But when I lifted my
head and saw all those flags all over the stadium. I'm not a
nationalist, but at moments like that you really feel like you
belong to something. You belong to a group, to a nation. All these
feelings come out. Seeing the stadium simply covered with Italian
flags was an extraordinary moment, one I will remember forever.
Had Bearzot foreseen the outcome of the Final?
No, I don't think so. A coach can make plans
but a match usually turns out differently. The victory against
Brazil was important because it created a certain aura around us as
a team. To the extent that the games after that seemed like mere
formalities, even though they weren't. The Poland game seemed
easy by comparison, the Germany game too. We felt like world
beaters, nobody could touch us.
When you scored that goal, did you think about someone in
particular?
No, I didn't think about anyone in particular.
At times like that you are just glad to show your worth.
And was the moment when you received the FIFA World Cup
Trophy a special moment in your life.
You bet. It was an indescribable joy. When
you've been playing football all your life it's a dream
come true. When you lift it... but you don't realize at the
time, it takes a while to sink in. You are too wrapped up with the
game and the tournament. With the passing of time you realise
you've done something exceptional and most importantly
you've made so many people very happy. The results in
themselves are actually meaningless, the personal achievement. But
knowing that all those people have gotten so much pleasure from
what you have achieved brings a tremendous sense of inner joy.
I thought that goalscorers had to be innately selfish to be
good at what they do?
No. Football is a team game. A goalscorer is
nothing without his team-mates. Me in particular. I wasn't the
type of player who could go it alone. I was the guy who finished
off the move in the last six, five or two metres. But I needed
someone to set me up. I couldn't do that myself. I always
looked at football as a team sport, never from an individual point
of view. I never saw scoring a goal as more important than winning
as a team.
But sometimes you have to choose between passing and going
it alone.
If my team-mate was in a better position than me I
always passed him the ball. I was never a selfish footballer.
It's a decision you need to make in a fraction of a
second.
Yes, in a fraction of a second. But that's how
I played the game. If I was better positioned, I would finish
myself, if you were better positioned, I would lay it off to you.
That was my mindset. I wasn't selfish.
Seeing Sandro Pertini with tears in his eyes is something
we all remember too.
Pertini's tears summed up how the whole nation
felt. When a President gets involved in a game the way he did... He
was an extraordinary person, a very sincere man. He wore his heart
on his sleeve. Italians really identified with him, Italy's
foremost representative. When we scored he reacted like a football
fan not like a president. Presidents tend to be wooden, but he
wasn't at all. He showed the way every Italian was feeling.
Nobody can forget those images.
You went back to Italy with the President the next day.
Yes, we went back to Italy with the President, it
was just magnificent. I don't exactly remember when we arrived
home, but I do remember the unbelievable reception we received.
From Ciampino Airport to the Quirinale Palace, where we went to
dine with the President, I remember a continuous flood of people,
all cheering in the streets. It was as if the war had ended. These
are historical moments when everybody remembers if they were there
or what they were doing at that time. There aren't many moments
in life like that. Fabulous, wonderful memories. Moments of joy and
happiness for everybody.
How do you explain people's fascination with football?
How can anyone explain football? When I meet people
from other sports they often say "football is everywhere,
it's the king of all sports". But I'm not the one who
makes it so. People just love football. That's the way it is.
God bless whoever invented football. It was the English, I think.
And what a fantastic idea it was. A game where the team at the
bottom of the table can beat the team at the top. You can score
four goals in four minutes and upset all the odds. What other sport
engenders as much excitement? Very few. I like other sports but
what football stands for is just extraordinary.
Now, may I show you something
(hands over the FIFA World Cup Trophy)?
Of course, wow!
It was made in Italy, by an Italian sculptor, Gazzaniga.
They're renewing it for the second time, the first time was
after President Pertini dropped it. Do you remember when you held
it in your hands?
I took it in my hands and held it up in the air for about two
or three minutes. What a feeling. Then the next day, on the
airplane with Sandro Pertini, I held it close to me for half an
hour. I was afraid it might be the last chance I had to hold it
because it was getting passed around. It's such a beautiful
trophy.
Yes, but you won other cups too didn't you?
Yes, I was lucky enough to win several domestic
trophies. But this is beyond compare. The World Cup is the biggest
prize of all.